The countdown to the NHL trade deadline is officially upon us. With the 2018 NHL trade deadline now only six days away, rumors, rumblings and even some actual deals will be be the hottest news and discussion in the days ahead.
Our trade deadline series is already two articles deep and already includes a bunch of reader comments offering viewpoints on different things. Part 1: “Setting the stage” is HERE. Part 2: “Considering the categories” is HERE.
Today’s Coffee Shop also features a set of polls and discussion questions focused on the trade deadline from a Carolina Hurricanes viewpoint.
Carolina Hurricanes polls
Please remember to click ‘vote’ after each individual poll response.
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Discussion questions
1) What players, if any, do you think Ron Francis should target, and what deals would you try to do?
2) What do you expect from a Canes perspective for the trade deadline?
3) Anything else trade deadline related…GO!
Go Canes!
Enjoy your complacency, Matt …I’m gone
But, but puckgod, who will keep me searching for statistics solely so I can possibly introduce some hope in the depths of their hockey woes? I’ll miss you dude, hope you come back when the rebuild pays off fully.
I get it though, folks only have so much patience. I still have many years before my patience runs out though (thanks Red Sox fandom), so I heartily encourage Ron to stick to the plan. I love the plan. It’s going to pan out. I believe.
I would not be surprised to see the team trade Ryan and/or Stempniak though. If we are truly sticking to plan, then keeping them on the roster is a waste of a potential future pick, and I think some of our AHL guys could do a great job for us down the stretch.
From us fans who are in on the RF process, it’s ALL ABOUT THE PICKS!!!!!
Agreed. Guess u are the other guy that voted like me… Should have said person!
Bye Felicia!
Well, damn. There may be a reason to come back yet. 😀
Patrick Maroon
I would say that Ronnie needs to focus on players who can be had for a reasonable price and will be a true scoring catalyst. In my eyes, a scoring catalyst is someone who will hit bullies hard when they are bothering our undersized scorers, bothering our goalkeepers, or generally threatening to score. Dropping the gloves to protect teammates is also desirable. Patrick Maroon, Milan Lucic, Eric Gubranson, Conor Murphy, Tommy Wingles, Max Domi, and more.
Matt. Great perspective as always.
1). Pacioretty. As you stated he would be perfect on a line centered by Aho.
2) if Wallmark looks good again the next two games, I expect Ryan will be offered—though he has been valuable.
3) Given the prospects (Necas, Foegele, Helvig, Mattheos) at every level, I completely understand that the organization can deal from strength. I would love for Williams and Ward to be part of another run. I also will love the multiple runs Aho, Pesce and company are building towards.
I’m losing patience with Peters, you gotta play Wallmark more than 4 minutes a game. You can’t expect the young guys to make a difference when you bring them up and only play them 4 mins or put them in the press box.
1/ The stated prices are exorbitant for all the big names allegedly available so I would try and nibble at the edges. Sorry Puckgod.
2/ I do not expect a hockey trade. I do not expect us to be buyers of any big names. I expect us to try and sell Stempniak and maybe Ryan and use the return as part of a package to modestly upgrade. Having said that, I’d love to see something bigger.
3/ I agree completely with fogger: I’m patient and would not want to jeopardize the process (which I think is working) by overpaying at the deadline. Further, I’m not really a big fan of any of the names out there, even Pacioretty. I just don’t think one more year of term is enough for the rumored cost, unless we plan to be a seller at the next deadline, which is obviously not the direction we think we’re heading. Hoffman is interesting a 2 more years and RNH is very interesting a 3 more years, but those are real hockey trades that are unlikely to happen now.
Big picture: I am a little disappointed we haven’t found a rhythm yet (like it seems NJD has), but I’m thrilled with where we in the standings given and how we’re playing, and even optimistic given the struggles our our two closest rivals (NYI/CBJ), who have far bigger issues than we do. Again, I’d love to see a bold move if it helps now AND for the future, but I’m happy to wait until June when more options will be in play.
While Pacioretty would be very nice to have, I doubt we get anyone, and probably sell off small pieces. Sometimes I feel like his season is the chicken or the egg. Is it the goaltending fail again (basically Darling not what we hoped) or did the offense fail (still not generating enough goals). Or, is this a perpetual motion machine, bad offense fuels tight sticks on goaltenders which leads to bad goals which leads to tighter sticks on forwards……
I just want to see BP pick a line up and ride it. I’d like to see Lindholm, Staal, Wallmark, and Ryan down the middle (unless we trade Ryan), move Rask to wing. It would also be nice to see a Foegele or Zykov or Saarela come up. I think we have too many players we don’t give enough time to look at to determine their true potential in the NHL.
1. IF I’m GMRF, I test the waters on Hoffman, Pacioretty, and maybe Galcheyuk. But I wouldn’t massively overpay for them(a 1st and not Aho/Necas/Slavin/Pesce, sure!)
2. If we lose Froday and Saturday, I expect a sell off, and calling up some Checkers.
3. I wonder how much Tom Dundon will pressure Ron and Bill to try something outside their conform zone?
Hoffman, Pacioretty, and Kane are interesting but that is about it. And only if a good hockey trade can be made.
An example is last year’s deadline trade of Ron Hainsey. Hainsey was 35 yrs old and nearing the end of his career on a $1M AAV expiring contract. His future was unclear. We traded him for Pitt’s second round pick that we traded to Vegas for TVR, a 25 yr old (at the time) player under contract for an additional year at $825K. Pitt got a key piece to win a Stanley Cup, we got a fine young player under contract a very reasonable price. A very good deal trajectory, not including the most important part. Hainsey got to hoist the Stanley Cup, and was promptly signed by the leafs at $3M AAV for two years. It was a good deal for us, a great deal for Pitt, and an amazing deal for Hainsey. Everybody won.
Since my favorite thing about the canes is the prospects / pipeline, it would dampen my spirits to damage it simply to make the playoffs this year. There is a bigger picture and Pitt is a good example; make the trade only if you believe it will help you win the cup. Don’t make the trade if you believe that gives you the best chance to win the cup.
So to finally address question #2) GMRF will make a trade if it better positions us to win a Stanley Cup. He will not make a trade to slightly increase our chances of making the playoffs this year, unless the trade does not ultimately damage our ability to win the cup in the future.