Saturday was an absolutely magical game with emergency backup goalie David Ayres stepping into the Canes’ crease and picking up the victory. The story itself was straight from a story book, and winning without goalies James Reimer and Petr Mrazek and also key defenseman Brett Pesce was quite the feat.
But with that crazy night gradually fading into the background, the team awoke on Sunday without a healthy NHL goalie and now down two top 4 defensemen with the trade deadline just over 24 hours away. With no practice on Sunday, we do not yet have an update on the three injured players, but Brind’Amour’s comments after the game suggested that all three could be out for awhile.
Needless to say, the ball has very clearly entered Don Waddell’s court with some big decisions to make.
Obviously, the situation has changed a bit, but the starting point for the trade deadline still starts with my original need assessments.
On February 14, I took a shot at playing Don Waddell and identifying potential acquisition targets.
The big change is the loss of two goalies and another top 4 defenseman.
Today’s Daily Cup of Joe expounds upon my comments on Twitter earlier today for how I think the team should and/or will respond.
Reaction to the recent injuries
2/? At a general level, I would not give away a ton of future to try to duct tape things together. Adding even good players this time of year comes with risks, and not sure the time is now for #Canes to go all in.
— Canes and Coffee (@CanesandCoffee) February 23, 2020
Despite the injuries, I do not think the time is right to go into desperation mode and over-leverage the future for the 2019-20 season. I do think the Canes should shop aggressively but not for rentals to try to fix 2019-20 but rather for a player or two with term per my initial article. The next leg up for this team will come from the young stars finding a higher gear in the playoffs, not from a whiz-bang addition or two.
The goalie situation
3/? In goal, Alex Nedeljkovic is playing well in AHL and needs to get a shot in 2020-21 regardless. Guess this expedites it. Anton Forsberg has NHL experience and will not be in over his head.
— Canes and Coffee (@CanesandCoffee) February 23, 2020
5/? Robin Lehner is interesting, but as a rental, I would not pay exorbitant price. If no one else bids up goalie help, I offer Blackhawks a fallback with a mid-round pick. Most interesting would be including Reimer to potentially free up #2 slot for Nedeljkovic for next year.
— Canes and Coffee (@CanesandCoffee) February 23, 2020
On Sunday, the Carolina Hurricanes called up both Alex Nedeljkovic and Anton Forsberg from the AHL. As far as unproven depth that at least has high-end potential, the duo is a good one. Alex Nedeljkovic has a high draft pedigree and a penchant from playing well under pressure in big games. More significantly, he has been playing at a level in 2018-19 and 2019-20 to suggest that he has mastered the AHL and is ready for a shot at the NHL. Had Don Waddell not found a trade to unload Scott Darling without buying him out and acquired James Reimer in the process, Nedeljkovic would have started the 2019-20 season as the backup. With his waiver exemption expiring next season, he will almost certainly be at the NHL level for the 2020-21 season. Though the ideal scenario would not have been in the middle of a tight playoff race, best was always to get Nedeljkovic some NHL starts in 2019-20 to gauge if/how ready he is. So here we are.
I would go right to Nedeljkovic on Tuesday and plan on getting him one of the weekend back-to-back games and then go from there.
And the current scenario is exactly why the Hurricanes acquired Anton Forsberg as a ho-hum fringe AHL/NHL goalie in the Calvin de Haan trade. Forsberg will not be in over his head as a goalie with 45 NHL starts.
So while neither is a sure thing, the two options that the Canes have in net both have the potential to work out well.
Ideal would be to have a couple weeks before the trade deadline to see if one or both would in fact work out, but that obviously is not the case.
The one wild card is Robin Lehner. I think Lehner is good enough that I would have at least considered adding him even before the pair of injuries. But the important caveat is that in no way would I consider paying a premium or winning a high-end bidding war. More so, I would be willing to step in at a discounted price if no eager suitors emerge.
I think most interesting would be to kill two birds with one stone. First would be to add Lehner for the 2019-20 season as a proven veteran and arguably an upgrade even to Reimer and Mrazek. Second would be to include James Reimer in that deal. To be clear, Reimer has been incredibly good in a backup role this year. But as I said on Twitter earlier today, I think ideal entering the year would be to get a year or part of it from him as a capable 1B of #2 goalie, boost his trade value and then move him to make room for Nedeljkovic in 2020-21. Reimer will be 32 years old in a couple weeks and has a $3.4 million cap hit for next year. Further, of his $3.1 million actual salary, $2.25 million is due upfront as a signing bonus in July, so if the Hurricanes do move Reimer, there is a financial incentive to do so sooner rather than later.
So when I net it out, I am fine with going with Nedeljkovic and Forsberg, especially if either Reimer or Mrazek will be back fairly soon. I would kick the tires on Robin Lehner but not be high bidder in any kind of bidding war.
On the blue line
7/? So being 6 weeks deep trying to add a top 4-capable defenseman with term through 2020-21, I would up the ante. Jonas Brodin is the premium version. Jeff Petry has been mentioned in trade rumors. I think this is where Waddell spends his energy.
— Canes and Coffee (@CanesandCoffee) February 23, 2020
9/9 What say you @Canes fans? Do you make a move at goalie (Lehner?)? Do you make a move on defense? Both? Neither? #LetsGoCanes
— Canes and Coffee (@CanesandCoffee) February 23, 2020
On defense, I would be fairly aggressively shopping for a defenseman with term. But to be clear, I was actually in this boat even before the Dougie Hamilton injury. Per the article linked to above, I view the Hurricanes as having three bona fide top 4 defensemen in Jaccob Slavin, Brett Pesce and Dougie Hamilton for the 2020-21 season. Jake Gardiner and Haydn Fleury are two options to possibly fill out the top 4 or at least provide depth. My money says that both Joel Edmundson and Trevor van Riemsdyk who are both unrestricted free agents this summer will depart not because the Canes do not want them, but because the team will not be willing to commit #4D type salary with term to either player who ideally slots onto the third pairing with the Canes.
So while the Brett Pesce injury creates a bigger hole short-term, I was shopping to add a player who could help here anyway. I continue to think that Jonas Brodin is the best target. Jeff Petry’s name has come up recently too. I think this is the deal that Waddell tries hardest to bring to fruition on Monday and is willing to bid fairly aggressively.
But I still think Canes aggressiveness is overestimated by the broader NHL media
1/2 My 2c is that recurring comments that they would trade a 1st round pick is overblown. Sure if you ask directly, they would be willing to trade one in the right deal only because any team would 'for the right deal'.
— Canes and Coffee (@CanesandCoffee) February 23, 2020
2/2 But @Canes have made concerted effort to obtain and use draft picks. Remember last draft when they were supposed to use picks to acquire players…and instead traded for more picks? And then spent $5M cash in Marleau deal to buy 1st-rounder? Hardly seems eager to trade picks.
— Canes and Coffee (@CanesandCoffee) February 23, 2020
I think NHL hockey media has @Canes willingness to trade 1st-round pick overestimated likely from reading too much into standard "sure we would consider anything if it makes sense" answer over considering actions over past few years.
Guess we'lllearn more in next 24ish hours…
— Canes and Coffee (@CanesandCoffee) February 23, 2020
The hockey media seems to have the Canes as dying to spend one of their first two picks to make a big addition at the trade deadline. TSN’s trade tracker has the Canes first-round pick as an entity in and of itself high on the list.
The media sees the Canes with two first-round picks and quickly assumes that one is extra. Then they ask vague questions about willingness to trade one of them to which the team gives the standard answer of “for the right deal” which is always true. And you connect a couple dots and figure the team is ready to spend a first-round pick.
I think this is overblown and completely misses the recent history of what the team is actually doing. The team has recently stockpiled picks and only very sparingly spent them. The Hurricanes entered the 2019 NHL draft with a bunch of extra picks and expectations that they would use some for trade collateral. Instead, the team traded down with those picks and actually selected even more players while trading none of the draft picks. The Canes also more or less bought a first-round draft pick for $5 million when it took on Patrick Marleau to buy him out.
If anything, the team’s history shows that it has a propensity to use draft picks in quantity to build for the future. I would not be shocked to see the Hurricanes use a first-round pick in a trade, but I would be surprised, and I would expect the acquisition to be huge and not a rental.
My crystal ball
If I had to bet, I think the Hurricanes add Jonas Brodin tomorrow or if not him another defenseman.
Though there are decent veteran options likely to be available for cheap, I would be moderately surprised to see the Hurricanes add a depth goalie versus just going with Nedeljkovic and Forsberg.
What say you Canes fans?
1) What, if anything, would you do to shore up the goalie position?
2) What, if anything, would you do to solidify the blue line?
3) Do you have predictions for specific deals tomorrow?
Go Canes!
I gotta say I’m a hard no for a Goalie. If Lehner wasn’t asking for huge dollars this off season, maybe but don’t see that happening.If we just knew how long Petr would be out, we could get this figured out easier.
On D, someone with term would be great. Dumba would be fantastic, but I don’t you you get there with just players. I think if they’re willing to give up a 25yr old, that first has to be in play, plus some other Dmen. It will be interesting to see what DW has in store for this. If nothing shakes, wouldn’t mind seeing McKeown called. I think you get the solid D from him. I guess you could see Priskie, too, but with McKeown’s status as a RFA at the end of the season, easier to let him play. Either he does real well and becomes trade bait or you know he’ll be career AHL.
I agree with giving McKewon a shot.
The question becomes are you trying to build a perennial Stanley Cup contender, or is making the playoffs this year your most important goal? I hope it’s the former. If it is, there is no way the Canes should make a trade for a rental. If they can make the team better long-term, sure. I doubt that deal is out there. The rumor of what Minnesota wants for Dumba that was published a certain Hurricanes beat writer is dead on from what I heard from a very reliable source. They want Necas and a first. PFFFFFT!!! No chance.
Who knows what they do on D. If it needs to be a righty I suppose it will be McKeown. I’ve heard little good about Priskie so far and do you think they would bring up Keane immediately? McKeown already cleared waivers once this year, so it’s not like he’s a hot commodity.
The bottom line to me is this team doesn’t have it. Something is off and adding a solid defenseman isn’t going to solve it. I say roll with what you have and stock up on talent this summer.
I believe we were thinking about adding D before all the injuries. Possibly even an upgrade in goal. Now we have lost so much that I just do not see throwing draft picks and money to patch something together.
I think we are fine at goal. We have two guys who can come up and probably do the job. It’s time for Ned to get his shout anyhow. I would love Lehner but he is a rental and will want big bucks next year. I just do not see mortgaging our future for that.
D, what really fits? Maybe we shop for term but probably better to do that in off season. My feeling is we are already down 2 top 4. Are we really going all the way at this point. I think it is better to think long term now rather then spending a lot to duct tape things together. You bring in new people and chemistry is not there right away.
It’s just too many injuries at the wrong time. We can still be competitive but it’s time to focus our choices on the future.
If we did anything, it should be on D. Today will be interesting.
My only concern, which isn’t a strong concern given the discipline that TD/GMDW have shown over the past 18-months, is that we’ll grossly over-pay for anything. If the market is too expensive, I’m fine doing nothing (though that wouldn’t be my preference.)
Unless the rental market prices fall dramatically as we approach 3pm today, I’d avoid it entirely unless Lehner is available for a reasonable pick. As for defensemen, it’s slim pickens out there and the odds of a fair trade for Brodin or Dumba or Petry or anyone else is rapidly declining, so I’m on the side of rolling with Bean/other and see what happens. (BTW, Fleury has really start to rise to the occasion and I would think about giving him more responsibility – probably going to happen anyway; we might finally be seeing the real Fleury – they say it takes 100 NHL games as a defenseman and he now has~135.)
Let’s just not do anything stupid to appease the fans. This isn’t TOR or CGY or WIN – we know the future is really the next two years.
Haula, Wallmark, Priskie, and Luostarinen to FLA for Trocheck.
My first thought is that this is a lot to pay for Trocheck, but I can almost see the sense to it.
Wondering how others here view it.
I like it. The Canes got a young centerman with 3 years on his contract for an unhappy upcoming UFA, a decent bottom 6 forward and spare parts. Acquiring Keane made Priskie expendable. Luostarinen is a depth player with some upside.
Trocheck has scoring upside and plays the game fast. Not so sure about his defensive accumen, but if he is good in the defensive zone he could be Staal’s replacement…eventually.
I like it too. I have never been enamored by Wallmark and Luostarinen most likely won’t play in the NHL. I have a feeling (I hope I’m right) that Trocheck will play in Rod’s system well and prove to be a great fit. And he has some term left.
My first reactions was WTF!! Yah, he’s a good guy but his stats are not that much better then Wallmark or Haula. I get that Haula was essentially a self rental, but Wallmark and Priskie too. This really seems like a BIG overpay. We are building for the future and they see more that I, but wow. At least he had some term. Maybe with Keane now part of the plans, Priskie was not growing the way they expected. I do not know what to think. Maybe a year from now I will say great move but right I think not.
Kind of surprised there are no Charlotte defensemen in the house for practice today. Maybe something to do with the 23 man roster limit, but if they don’t trade for a D someone has to come up.
Vatanen to Canes for Kuokkanen and a conditional 2nd round pick.
Skjei to Canes for 2020 first round pick.
Players from Canes to LTIR.
Wow.