Just in time for a Labor Day brunch, the Carolina Hurricanes announced that Justin Williams would not be joining the team. The wording was interesting in that it did not use the word “retire.” The title read, “Williams Announces Break from NHL.” Inside the team news release, the words “…step away from the game” were used. The word “unsure” was also included and Williams made mention of just not being physically or mentally ready at this point.
I recommend reading the full news release as it has a good amount of meaningful comments instead of boilerplate terms.
You first!
Where Justin Williams left off after the 2018-19 season
From the very first press conference that Justin Williams did (but Bill Peters somehow missed), he returned to help boost the Carolina Hurricanes back to NHL relevancy. With a contagiously fun vibe around the team established, a return to the playoffs and even playoff success, one could make a strong case that Justin Williams had accomplished what he returned to do. A case could be made that he had done his part to change the trajectory of the team and that timing was right for him to retire from the NHL on a high note. And if that is ultimately what happened (or happens?), Justin Williams will be no less of a great as a Carolina Hurricanes player.
But at the same time, there was very clearly a role left for him to play as the team’s ascent hopefully continued in 2019-20. The impact of his leadership as a captain was unmistakable and an integral part of the team’s success. In addition, the players who could be candidates to next wear the C long-term are maybe a year or two away and could ideally use another year or two of tutelage with less pressure. And not to be missed was the fact that in addition to leadership, Williams was still a very productive player finishing second on the team with 23 goals and third with 53 points.
He entered the off-season with an incredibly strong case to retire but an equally compelling on to return.
The decision
As this situation crept into and past August, it became increasingly obvious that this (not playing at least) would ultimately be the result. After an arduous regular season with three full months of playoff-ish pressure followed by three playoff series with 15 more games, Williams was no doubt fully spent both emotionally and physically. I actually think that the Torey Krug game against the Bruins maybe showed him hitting a wall after spending everything he had. At the beginning of the summer, I would have pegged the odds of a return at 60 percent and left them there through mid-July. But at the point where most of the free agency settled, I think the probably of a Justin Williams return inched downward by the day to the point where I would have pegged it at 20 percent or less last week. Williams’ words in the press release seem to show a player who had not yet accepted retirement as the next step but who had very clearly not found what it took to start the 2019-20 season. Though like everyone else, I would have preferred an earlier decision, I actually have a ton of respect for Williams today. Many players would have taken the $4 million and prepared to do their best. And at a bare minimum Williams would have been a reasonably productive middle forward who was a positive in the locker room. But Williams knows what 100 or 110 percent is and what it requires and that is the level that he holds himself too. So it makes complete sense that he would pull up short of collecting another paycheck and being good enough.
The door that remains cracked open for a return
The most newsworthy part of Sunday’s announcement was the wording that stopped well short of retirement. With a change of heart, fire in the belly or whatever, Williams clearly left the door open for a return. That begs the question under what circumstances that could be possible. Like other free agents, Williams still has until December 1 to sign a new contract. In a scenario where the Hurricanes name a new captain, pick up where they left off and rise up the standings in the first half of the season, a Williams’ return seems unlikely. The risk on the front end is the leadership transition and change in culture that Williams helped drive. If that transitions fine with his absence, I am not sure it makes a ton of sense for him to step back into it. If on the other hand, the team struggles under the pressure of much higher expectations for the 2019-20 season and at the same time Williams finds he misses NHL hockey more than he enjoys spending time with his family, just maybe the door opens for a mid-season return. For a player who will turn 38 when the season starts in early October, a shortened season could be a positive if the team can survive it. And if the leadership is still needed, maybe that is what brings him back to make sure the bridge he started to lay in 2018-19 is not swept away.
One could also paint a scenario whereby the team is mostly fine without him, but he returns anyway sort of as a trade deadline veteran addition. Williams is exactly the kind of player that teams are looking to add for the stretch run and playoffs, so a scenario in which he returns but not necessarily reclaim a top leadership role is feasible. But I think the situation where Williams is maybe not so much needed but returns anyway is less likely. I feel like he returns only if a change in heart is paired with team really needing him to make sure what he built in 2018-19 is not lost. I guess time will tell on that.
The captaincy and Justin Williams’ leadership
I am on record as saying that the team could really use another year with Justin Williams as the captain for two primary reasons. First, with 2018-19’s success comes expectations and with that comes both more pressure and a different kind of pressure. When the Hurricanes inevitably hit a rough patch as always happens over the course of a long 82-game season, I think having Williams to lead past that one last difficult hurdle could be critical. In addition, my opinion is that the next long-term captain will not come from assistants Jordan Staal or Justin Faulk but rather from the next generation of younger players. As such, I think another year of seeing how Williams goes about the job would be invaluable, and I also think that group of players could benefit from another year of two of getting ready before having that heavy weight thrust upon them.
On July 8, I noted that I was higher on the importance of Williams’ leadership for 2019-20 than many in this article.
My article from May 28 shortly after the playoffs ended also had similar comments on Williams’ importance for 2019-20.
It is not that I think the Hurricanes are necessarily doomed with Justin Williams. Rather, I just see it as a significant point of risk and definitely something to watch closely when the team hits a rough patch.
Options and considerations for the next captain
The burning question now is who will be named the next captain of the Carolina Hurricanes. Most common in a situation like this is to bump one of the previous alternates up to wearing the C. The options for that path would be Jordan Staal and Justin Faulk who were the co-captains prior to Williams being given that title. The most logical next in line would probably be Staal. And while Staal and Faulk deserve credit for their role in 2018-19’s succes, I personally do not see either as the next captain of the team at least long-term. No doubt there were issues with the dual captaincy under Bill Peters, but I just do not have either as a choice to return to the captaincy. Instead, I think the next long-term captain of the team should and eventually will come from the younger group. Had you asked me a year ago, I would have had Jaccob Slavin and Sebastian Aho as an equal chance to be the next leader, but increasingly I think the Hurricanes are destined to become Aho’s team. It was not random coincidence that Sebastian Aho’s locker room stall was suddenly right next to Williams’ where he could hear the majority of Williams’ interviews and see firsthand how he carried himself and interacted with others day in and day out. But the question for me is whether Aho is ready and whether his time is now. My strong preference per previous articles and my comments above was to have Justin Williams lead through one more season and making the sometimes difficult transition from being a feel-good team defying the odds to facing the pressure of being a team that is expected to do well. But here we are.
I think another interesting possibility for short-term would be Jordan Martinook. He would sort of be coming from off the leadership depth chart, but the way he carries himself and scores incredibly high for people IQ is exactly what a team wants in a captain. And as more of a depth player who does not have massive expectations in terms of raw score sheet production, he could maybe better add that responsibility without being weighed down by it. The issue with Martinook is that he probably even more than a ‘we are going to the next generation’ decision for Aho or Slavin could rub Staal and/or Faulk the wrong way.
So long story short, I seem to have just built a field of five contenders with some complexity to it.
In Rod We Trust
Important to note is that the person who will ultimately make this decision is Rod Brind’Amour. He obviously knows a thing or two about being a captain. He also knows this group and locker room better than anyone having been inside the room with the group pre-dating Justin Williams’ arrival and working with the team under Bill Peters. So in terms of making the best decision possible given the options available, one has to like the team’s chance of getting it right. One also has to like the chances of the next captain growing successfully into the role with Brind’Amour there as coach and a great example fresh in his memory from Williams in 2019-20. So though I will exercise my right to have an opinion on the matter and will try to make a case for it, it is also important to recognize that this is very clearly a situation where the decision-maker has both better information and better experience/skill set to make the best decision possible.
My two cents
I lean in two directions that have same ultimate outcome a couple years down the road. At the simplest level I like Sebastian Aho but admittedly with reservations and consideration for proper timing.
I lean away from doing the obvious and promoting Staal or Faulk. My hunch is that Brind’Amour will similarly see them as complementary leadership and not the type to wear the C. But as I said above, if Brind’Amour sees it differently, I have to take that as him having a better read on that player’s capabilities based on the greater amount of information he has.
Disclaimer about not being in the locker room aside, I really think that Sebastian Aho is the team’s next captain (possibly eventually). Important is to to decide if he is ready for this extra responsibility right now or if it instead has the potential to weigh him down. I would have preferred another year, but players with leadership abilities tend to be able to grow into the leadership roles ahead of schedule.
Part of me really likes the idea of putting Jordan Martinook in the the role for one year and telling him on the front end that his job is to continue tutoring and paving the path for Aho. If this is handled correctly, naming Aho maybe next season would not be a demotion for Martinook but instead would mean that he had successfully accomplished his goal. I suppose it is possible to do the same thing with Staal though I feel like for him it might still slight him not to just give him the role permanently. But the issue with Martinook as an option could be the statement about Staal and Faulk’s leadership if they get bypassed for a temporary who is also a veteran and not part of the next wave of players.
Justin Williams the player
Most of the conversation about Justin Williams’ decision over the next few days will focus on the captaincy and leadership. I think that is generally on target. But also to be considered is replacing him as a player. As noted above, when all was said and done, Williams was the team’s #2 goal scorer and #3 points producer for the regular season. Over the course of the summer much has been said about the team gaining forward depth, but that analysis usually had Williams penciled into the lineup. Without Williams, the team is down two top 9 forwards in Micheal Ferland and up two top 9 forwards in Erik Haula and Ryan Dzingel. The team does have potential upside in gains from young players like Andrei Svechnikov and Warren Foegele and also Martin Necas if he can build on his strong AHL season but at the NHL level. But in terms of proven NHL scoring, Williams puts the team back to two steps forward two steps back and roughly the same amount of proven scoring.
Does this make room for another addition?
The biggest domino effect for the Canes roster could be Saku Maenalanen. My speculation awhile back was that he might be holding out for a one-way contract or otherwise considering a return to Finland. Williams’ decision pushes the team back down to 11 proven NHL forwards. Martin Necas would make 12, and there could be room at the NHL level, possibly even on a one-way deal, for Maenalanen now.
The much bigger move would be trying to capitalize on what is generally a buyer’s market right now. In trying to make the Mitch Marner math work, could Kyle Dubas be forced to deal someone like Kasperi Kapanen for futures? Maple Leafs fans would scream at the suggestion, but we are now in September. If there was a way with the current math equation, one would figure the deal would be done.
Also in a Leafs vein, could Jake Gardiner be a bargain basement add. To be clear, I do not see the Hurricanes adding a higher cost defenseman with term to the mix. The team has decent depth for the third pairing. But if Gardiner suddenly becomes available on a one-year ‘prove it’ type deal for say $2 million, he could help the Hurricanes get back to five top four defenseman like 2018-19 and also add much-needed power play help.
Williams’ decision could also be relevant to Jesse Puljujarvi who I discussed in Friday’s Daily Cup of Joe.
I would not be keen on spending all of the $4 million salary cap available nor would I necessarily be looking to acquire players at a fair market value. But just before training camp can sometimes be a great time for buying at pennies on the dollar (reference Teuvo Teravainen trade).
What say you Canes fans?
1) How big of an issue/risk/concern is Justin Williams’ departure from a leadership standpoint?
2) What factors would you consider and who would you name as the next Hurricanes captain?
3) What do you think about the possibility of a mid-season return for Justin Williams?
Go Canes!
“Stepping away from the game” is not the same as retirement.
And he describes indecision. And I thought that if it was taking this long he didn’t know. And to use the allusion this single guy frequently makes – if you are going out with someone you either know you want to go out with her (him), in which case you are all in, or you know you don’t want to go out with her(him) in which case you end it. If you don’t know, then you don’t want to be with that person.
Is this a “let’s take some time apart from each other- and it’s not you, it’s me”?
Does this mean that he is open to the siren song of temptation – the possibility of another team inviting him over for a view of it’s etchings and trying to make him feel certain?
I doubt the JW saga is over.
With the time that had elapsed, I felt JW may not be coming back. It is a one or zero for him, you are all in or you are not. It is possible he could reconsider later in the season or be done.
1) I believe he showed the team what it takes but I do believe we will miss his leadership. I do not see a replacement at the same level.
2) next captain is tough. I am not sure Aho is ready. I see no obvious choice. I would lean towards Slavin. He is more experienced and I believe has the clout to be the leader. Stahl is very good at what he does but the first time did not really show enthusiasm. I have no real strong arguments.
3) possible’ but the more time off, the easier to be done.
My big concern is goal scoring now. We lost a big point producer. Hopefully the young guys continue to improve. Swapped two forwards and no better off then last year. Our defense is not as good, so as of now I see us not as good as last year. We may now be looking for trades from cash strapped teams. Gardner also has some merit.
Not the development I was hoping for. ????
Not surprised to hear this about JW. I had gotten the impression he wanted more time. Maybe he’ll be back in December, maybe not. Mike Fisher sure didn’t set the world on fire when he came back. The Canes were going to have to move forward without Williams sooner or later. I guess it’s sooner.
I think Staal is the obvious candidate. Measuring him as a co-captain and under Bill Peters isn’t quite fair, IMO. I’m not sold on Aho as captain. I don’t think the Canes, especially with Brind’Amour at the helm, will do the “best player is captain” move. Frankly, Brind’Amour probably thinks Staal is the best player anyway. I bet Aho gets an “A” to see how he handles it. Slavin is a classic do it by example leader. Not sure if he’s the guy to say something in the room if needed. No way it’s Faulk as he is unlikely to be he beyond this season.
When the New Jersey was unveiled, it appeared to show a jersey with a C on the front and a 19 on the back. It is an odd choice for a New Jersey.
After a moment of mourning, than a moment of considering what a January 1st return of JW would look like, my first action upon hearing the news was to check Brian Boyles’ stats. There are rumors that he and the Canes have had discussions for this very contingency.
When I voted for Martinook, I thought my vote would be an outlier. Seeing him 2 votes out of the lead is a pleasant surprise. For me, Slavin and Staal, are just a bit too serious for the role. They are both also a bit introverted and might be benefit from a less public role in team leadership.
I’m not surprised but definitely disappointed. His job on and off the ice is unfinished but he leaves on a very high note with few regrets. That’s a rare thing to do (in any career) and I tip my hat to that decision.
As for leadership, Aho doesn’t seem ready, Slavin seems more of an “A” than a “C” and neither Staal nor Faulk seemed to enjoy that role. Martinook is a perfect bridge to whoever comes next without any long-term expectations of wearing a letter indefinitely into the future. He’s also a RBA type of player that seems well-respected. The real question is who can RBA talk to that can also talk to everyone else? Personal dynamics are going to be a big part ofthis decision.
The other obvious alternative is to not name a captain, but that would be unusual for a team with expectations this high entering the season.
On the player side, JW was crafty and very productive and we will miss him on the ice too. Yes, this opens up a slot for someone younger, but I’m not sure this is going to make us better in the short term. The Brian Boyle talk makes me nervous. I’d rather trade for Jesse.
I tend to agree with RJ: this saga isn’t over. Someone tell me when he’s spotted skating.
PS. When is RBA going to name him an assistant coach?
Willy is not finished with hockey, the NHL, nor my beloved Canes. Surgalt mentioned Brian Boyle. I am certain he would fit in rather well. I know. I know. We don’t need another center. But then, maybe Wallmark would bring back something good in a trade.
Draft picks?
Any team has room for a 6′ 7″ 245 pound forward. He uses his body to advantage, yet, for the most part, stays out of the penalty box. He is not afraid to drop the gloves to defend a teammate and he doesn’t choose his targets. I invite you to see where he fought last season against Tom Wilson and Dion Phaneuf. Ironically, he fought Wilson after Wilson skated across the ice taking at least 6 steps (doesn’t anybody call charging anymore?) in order to nail tiny little Brian Gibbons to the boards.
I would vote for Boyle to take up the remaining cap space.
The film shows that Boyle didn’t win either of the aforementioned fights. But he didn’t lose them either. Both opponents were glad to get out of a skirmish with a guy the size of Boyle without incurring much damage.
Kyle Wood is also 6′ 7″ tall. He is not shy about using his size. Not much.of a fighter, but not unwilling to drop the gloves on behalf of a teammate.
He apparently has a good hard shot and knows his way around a power play.
With two large bodies knocking enemy players off balance, we will have only one personnel gap.
Willy. Bodies will need to be moved in order to create space for him under the cap.
I voted for Marty to be captain too.
One more POV on Puljujarvi. https://mynhltraderumors.com/can-jesse-puljujarvi-get-his-nhl-career-back-on-track/2019/09/03/
1. I have always been a little skeptical of the foundation underlying JW’s leadership – simply having to point out mediocre November and abysmal December and the parade of cliches that he (and others) spoke after each game. He led the team then and he led the team when it started winning in January. I don’t think his leadership was the agent for that change from losing to winning. And, overall, I think it is easier to be the captain of a winning team then a losing team. I am not trying to denigrate him here – just not idolize him. He will be missed but I think what he brought to the team last season is not as required this season. I doubt the team is going to be asking “WWJ(ustin)D” when things get a little sketchy this season.
2. I think Staal is the obvious choice – he is very well respected on the team and around the league. I caught snippets of clips from the locker room from years past and he is clearly admired by the team and has a great sense of humor with the guys (although he is no Martinook).
3. I am not a fan in principle of a mid-season return. It would indicate that the team really hasn’t developed if we need him. And if we don’t need him per play level and results, it is more doing him a favor by having him return. But, of course, he will always be welcomed back by the fans and the players. But I also think there is a risk – if he comes back and flops it will look bad. That said, as a successful professional athlete he isn’t ready yet to hang up the skates. He will be on ice (somewhere) this season.
I don’t understand fawning over JW or the need for his continued leadership. He was clutch 2nd half of the season, but before that he looked slow along with the team. Yes we will miss him, likewise, I’m sure JW has his share of influences too (he wasn’t signed by TD and I’m sure he hangs in circles with some who dislike TD). So end of the day JW did not want to come back. The team probably won’t be waiting for his return, just as I think he signs elsewhere.
I do not think your best offensive player should be captain. If RBA needs a captain to walk the walk in all situations, then I think the next captain is Jordan Staal. If RBA needs a captain to talk the talk and motivate by loosening up the guys, then Martinook is the guy (and a decent bridge to a more long-term captain).
Well, I guess I was wrong again. I was confident JW had decided to return but was holding off on the announcement – with the blessings of management – until the week before camp. I didn’t think there was any way he would leave the team hanging this long. On Sirius hockey today, they were floating the possibility that Williams received a less lucrative offer from the Canes than expected, and this delay is essentially a bargaining tool to force the issue to his favor. I’m not sure I can buy that scenario. However, it is a business and you never know how the real, behind the scenes, negotiations are playing out.
Due to salary cap limitations, JW was surely looking at a performance bonus based deal that could well have been less than highly motivating for another hard core training regimen. The absence of any reports of JW working hard to be ready in Octobermay have been the canary in the cage that forebode this decision. While the door was left open for a possible return, the practicalities of getting back in shape for mid-season “trade deadline pick-up” seem to preclude that reality, here or anywhere else. He has had an HOF career. That could just be enough for a man as accomplished as JW. My off the wall prediction: Tripp Tracey will soon need a new job.
I am glad someone is at least discussing the possibility that Williams was being low-balled. The organization lost two talented individuals in Bales and Vellucci. Its best player was willing to sign a contract with another team: I know the theory that it was 99% certain to keep Aho with the Canes, but that is like planning a trip with another suitor when you fiance won’t spend the money; you might end up taking the trip together, but you really couldn’t have been bluffing.
Treating members of any organization as if they are only business assets is not a great long-term strategy.
I don’t know what Tommy has to do in order to get rid of the stingy reputation some people want desperately to hang on him.
Please remember, he is spending to the cap. There are owners who find it difficult to spend enough to get to the floor. Ottawa anyone?
Maybe Willy is saying what he means and means what he says. I know. What a concept. He took a beating from late last season and through the playoffs. I suspect that he incurred a head injury and is trying to shake off the post-concussion symptoms. Maybe only he and his family know about it.
Maybe he doesn’t want to wind up like David Tanabe, who still suffers from symptoms.
Maybe he wants to give Tommy and Donny a chance to get the team Roddy wants without concern for him. Then let them deal from strength to make room for him.
I know. I know. I’m being unreasonable. Tommy is too much of a cheapskate. Even though he is spending to the cap and spending millions on a new jumbotron and other things to improve the fan experience.
There are those who don’t see the importance of Willy’s leadership. I disagree. This self-sacrifice of backing off is having a great deal of influence on his young teammates. Other players across the NHL are almost certain to take notice.
Maybe Willy is waiting to see if he and the kids will be protected adequately this season, given Ferland’s absence.