Pushing deeper into the week of the 2018 NHL and closer to the potentially busy weekend, yesterday’s Daily Cup of Joe identified potential trade targets from 15 of the NHL’s other 30 teams. Today’s Daily Cup of Joe continues with a similar wish list from the other 15 teams.
Nashville Predators
As much as the Nashville Predators are a good team with strong depth on offense and defense, I do not see them as a likely trading partner unless Ryan Ellis or Matthias Ekholm becomes available to address the team’s need to add a top 4 defenseman.
New Jersey Devils
As a division rival, the odds of the Hurricanes brokering a sizable deal with the Devils seems unlikely.
New York Islanders
If the Islanders lose John Tavares to free agency, might the team consider a deeper dive into rebuilding mode? If that does occur, then perhaps either Jordan Eberle or Anders Lee could become an option for a third forward for the Aho/Teravainen combination.
New York Rangers
The Rangers exercised a fairly significant sell off at the trade deadline in March. As such, it is hard to say which remaining players are on the trading block. Couple that with the fact that they are a division rival, and they are less likely to be a Hurricanes trading partner than some other teams.
Ottawa Senators
Though the one year term on his contract makes it risky to add Erik Karlsson at a high price, I continue to believe that their could be merit in making Justin Faulk the primary bargaining chip to add Karlsson. The good version of Faulk is the same right shot as Karlsson and even replaces some of the offense.
Philadelphia Flyers
One of the most recent big name players to join the ranks of the rumor mill in Wayne Simmonds. He had a strong 2017-18 and continues to be a good player, but the risk with trading for him is some combination of Simmonds leaving next summer when he becomes an unrestricted free agent and also the wear and tear for his rugged style of play. I would not pay a fortune for one more year of rights, but at some price he is a good addition even if only for one year.
Pittsburgh Penguins
As an in-division rival, I do not see much for options for players that fill the Hurricanes’ needs.
St. Louis Blues
The rumor mill has it that goalie Jake Allen could be available. His remaining contract has three years at a little over $4.5 million per year. Allen would represent a sizable and therefore somewhat risky change of plans at the goalie position.
San Jose Sharks
In an interesting pair of deals on Tuesday, the San Jose Sharks managed to ship out underperforming Mikkel Boedker and receive a nice collection of draft picks in return. That frees up more cap space and could theoretically make room to add Jeff Skinner to boost scoring. Somewhat similar to the Los Angeles deal, the San Jose Sharks have a veteran defenseman Justin Braun who could represent another option to solidify the Hurricanes’ second defense pairing.
Tampa Bay Lightning
With the addition of Ryan McDonagh and also the fact that Lightning seem due for their next round of salary cap challenges, could Anton Stralman become available? Stralman is 31 years old and only signed for one more year, so he might not represent a long-term solution. But he is the type of steady and reliable veteran defenseman who could help solidify the top 4.
Toronto Maple Leafs
The type of deal that has made sense conceptually for a couple years now is a swap of Noah Hanifin for a similar age forward. If (and that is an if) the Hurricanes decide that the team is ready to part ways with Hanifin, either of Mitch Marner or William Nylander would represent a similar age, similar draft pedigree and similar skill level trade to add a forward.
Vancouver Canucks
The Canucks are one of a couple teams who have been linked to Noah Hanifin interest. If the Hurricanes organization decides that Hanifin is not part of the long-term plan, then the Canucks’ #7 overall draft pick in the 2018 NHL Draft. Such a move would represent the chance to try again for a home run inside of the first 10 picks of the draft.
Vegas Golden Knights
If the Hurricanes were willing to aim for younger but also riskier in terms of upgrading the goalie position, Malcolm Subban could represent a high risk/high reward option. With only 23 games of NHL experience, he is far from proven as an NHL starter just like Darling and comes in with even less experience. But he has the potential to become an NHL starter and took at least small strides toward doing so in 2017-18 with 22 games played. With Fleury going strong and seemingly anchored into the starting role, perhaps the Knights would consider trading Subban if the return is good.
Washington Capitals
The name that jumps off the page for the Capital is Philipp Grubauer. With Braden Holtby leading the way to the Stanley Cup, the word on the street is the Capitals will look to trade Grubauer who could bring a third goalie to the Hurricanes’ current mix.
Winnipeg Jets
After coming off a strong 2017-18 that saw the team push up into the playoffs, best guess is that the Jets will mostly hold to the status quo.
What say you Canes fans?
1) Which of the players highlighted as potential targets do you like?
2) Are there players not listed from these 15 teams whom you would consider?
3) Who wants to take a shot at actually doing deals?
Go Canes!
I’ve thought for some time that Toronto would be a good trade partner for the Canes. If we could get either Marner or Nylander for Hanifin, that would be awesome. I think we would have to add something to make that more attractive to the Leafs. Im not a fan of Simmonds and would prefer we stay away from that one. Goalies? Allen or Grubauer would be a big improvement over our current situation. Subban, I think, is too risky. We don’t want Lack/Darling 3.0. I don’t know much about the rest of the players mentioned. I would be overjoyed if Tavares decided to take a ride on the Hurricanes train, but that will never happen. I think the hockey gods want him to stay on Long Island.
2 trades.
1) to Toronto: Hanifin and the rights to Derek Ryan.
2) from Toronto: Kapanen, Sparks, and Toronto’s 1st round pick.
Second grade
1) to Philadelphia: Skinner, Faulk, and Hanifin.
2) from Philadelphia: Simmonds, Gudas, 2nd round pick, goalie prospect.
I would never do the second trade. I cant see Faulk and Hanifin both being traded…
I honestly don’t like the first one either… Just not high on Kapanen.
Both are overpayments on the Canes side of it in my opinion. I see Toronto as a trading partner much the same way Duchene and Carolina were fits to be partners. If Toronto is talking to us it is certainly about Pesce, Hanifin and Faulk. And if we are talking to them it is certainly about Marner and Nylander in that order. The Canes shouldn’t settle for their 2nd tier prospects even if they might be good unless the Canes are also parting with their 2nd tier guys.
I saw a proposal like Bean for Kapanen and a draft pick somewhere and I thought that would be more accurate regarding prospects involved. If the Canes are willing to move Hanifin to the Leafs if it isn’t for Nylander or Marner (not necessarily straight up) then just make the deal somewhere else.
Second trade not trade.
Toronto has the 25 overall pick in the first round.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/svechnikov-2018-nhl-draft-barrie-colts-profile/
Nice article about background and family. “Svech is ready” is a quote about halfway into the article.
An excellent read – thanks for the link!
Svech always ready!
Great read… thanks for posting that… wow, what a story!
I”d do the first.
Hannifin seems to be in need of a change of scenery.
Sparks is one of the hottest goalie prospects around.
Kapanen could do with a change of scenery and some support from the Finish contingent could elevate his play.
A 25th pick in the first round can be turned into either a player or to sweeten a second deal.
I wouldn’t do the second trade, I think we give Philly way too much.
I’d try to pick their rugged defenseman loose with something though, I think it may be a good thint for the canes, but not sure what to offer up.
Maybe Walmark and the aforementioned 27th (assuming the Tor trade happened) might be enough.
Worried about simmons. I like his play but I am concerned that his style of play has worn him down and he is about to enter a rapid decline. It is a big risk but he is the type of player the Canes have needed for a long time.
I do not see Philly doing a major deal within the division. Nor do I see a deal like that with NRY, PIT, or CBJ. I could maybe see a Grubauer deal but I would think WAS wants him out of the division, too.
TOR does need help on D and they seem to have a lot of young offensive talent – I’ve always liked Nylander – so there might be something there.
Tyler Johnson has a no-trade kicking in on July 1 so there’s been speculation he could be available from TBY – he’s an interesting player. I’m not sure he qualifies for you Matt as a difference-maker but he comes close.
How about Faulk+Wallmark+104OA for Nylander+52OA?
PS- For all you out there who think it’s easy proposing trades, it’s not; and it makes me look silly or naive or out-of-touch or a Canes-homer. But it also keeps the conversation going. Please participate by proposing your own. No one will laugh at you (out loud).
Haha, no its not easy at all proposing trades. Its fun to read for sure. I would love Nylander. I think he is a legit playmaker and I think you could get a deal done similar to what you proposed, just a little more painful….
Faulk+42OA for Nylander – Could you live with that?
Hanifin has a lot more trade value but I would be less inclined to give him up.
Love Simmonds game, but there are huge warning signs. He was incredibly banged up this year. Saw him in Philly during the Canes last visit and he looked like a shell of himself. After hearing about all his injuries it made sense. He’s not that big of a guy to take all that pounding. Kind of a better version of Ruutu, who also wore down and became much less useful. I would take him next season, but I wouldn’t give up much to get him. Don’t know if that pelvic tear will be healed.
Snuff – I like the idea of Marner or Nylander for Hanifin… something in that starting point would be a good addition.
I love reading trade proposals and ideas of what could be there. Thanks Powerless for your thoughts. Here are a few of my own.. feel free to shoot holes in it 🙂
Tampa is going to have a tough time signing Kutcherov. Someone is going to be a casualty of his deal… It looks as though its going to be one or 2 of the triplets but Kutcherov doesn’t think he is signing long term… perhaps that’s an option but it would take way to much to pull that. One deal I would look at is getting a guy like Stralman.
Goalie market. This is a rough season to need a keeper. I just don’t think Allen is all that great. I would stay away from Subban. Grubauer is interesting but difficult to get that deal done. We are going to be stuck with last season’s tandem.. I see it coming.
My offer for a Keeper.
To Washington – 2nd (42 Overall)
To Carolina – Grubauer and 4th (124 Overall)
Id prefer not to give up our 2nd especially when we don’t have a 3rd. I can see us adding a pick in one of the potential deals coming. Its hard to guess when there are a bunch of moving pieces. I could see this geal for Grubauer straight up for the No. 42. I could live with that if I had to. I’m not sold On if Grubauer is going to be a legit top goalie or not but seems like the best option currently available.
The good thing about this year is that there appears to be a good number of teams with young players who are either RFA status or have some term to their contract that might just be available due to their own team constraints. For a while we’ve been floating around the same names in various trades, but now there might be more to add with Panarin and Kucherov, etc.
It wouldn’t surprise me to see any trade delayed until 2nd day of draft (or later). We can’t wait too long, but I think patience is a virtue right now for Dundon and company.
The whole Panarin thing puts the brakes on trading Skinner. Panarin is a much more attractive player that teams looking for an offensive upgrade are going to wait to see if he is available. The Jackets have said they want to sign him long-term, but that may have changed with Panarin’s comments. Then again, this may just be Panarin trying to get something done with the team he wants before he will talk extension. We will see, but I don’t see anything getting done with Skinner until the Panarin thing runs it’s course.
Good point, in the same way that teams are waiting on Kovalchuk before trading for Skinner. I do think CBJ will not part ways with Panarin this offseason, however.
This is a great point. There are rumored to be available a couple better players than Skinner right now – Panarin, OReilly, and Pacciorety and I expect a possible Canes trade to be later than sooner based on all this.
Hey I’d love for the Canes to be in on all those 3 names above ! 😛
The latest Eklund rumors (again, take them with a whole pound of salt) indicate that the Isles want Cam Ward and that the Wild may be shopping Niederreiter, Zucker and Dumba, preferably for a quality center/right wing.
What about Dumba and Niederreiter for Staal and Williams (blockbuster, the brothers get back together) or one of the two for Lindholm, or Zucker and Dumba for Hannifin and Lindholm.
Not super sold on any of these proposals but Niederreiter is a player that I think would fit well in the Canes system, not sure if Dumba is the experienced #4 D the Canes need, but he might be.
take them with a whole pound of salt
*Liked*
Here’s a couple of proposed trades:
To Edmonton: Skinner, Faulk, and Hanifin.
From Edmonton: Larsson, RNH, Lucic(we take the whole contract), the No.10 pick, a goalie prospect.
Or…..
To Detroit: Hanifin
From Detroit: the No. 6 pick, a forward prospect, a goalie prospect.
To Edmonton: Skinner, Faulk, and Hanifin.
From Edmonton: Larsson, RNH, Lucic(we take the whole contract), the No.10 pick, a goalie prospect.
I really like RNH but I don’t think we improve. Even with Larsson in the deal it leaves us in need on D for the next 2 years, at best case scenario. I currently feel pretty good about our centers though. Lindholm to me still projects in the top 6 as a center. Neccas I think will get time there as well… Aho will be the No.1 Center for years to come… including this season. Lucic is a contender for a buyout. The 10th pick is a nice add, There are some good players available in that range. I could get on board with this deal. It shakes up the “core”
To Detroit: Hanifin
From Detroit: the No. 6 pick, a forward prospect, a goalie prospect.
Make that Prospect Evgeny Igorevich Svechnikov and I sign-off on that deal all day. Especially if Brady is still there at No.6 which is a legit possibility. I doubt Detroit would even think about it though. We would have to throw in the 42OA and take off the Goalie Prospect.
To Detroit: Hanifin, 42OA, Saarela
From Detroit: the No. 6 pick, Evgeny Svechnikov
I agree there was no way Detroit would do the first version of this deal, but wow your counter offer makes me think there is NO way the Canes do this deal!
Saarela at this stage might be a slightly better prospect than Evgeny Svechnikov based on AHL numbers and the fact Saarela played against better competition in his prospect years (Liiga versus QMJHL). The 2nd round pick is a high pick and I’d imagine the Canes would like to select a player there. The 2nd round is probably where a lot of scouting staffs have identified what they see as missed first round picks – much like how the Canes got Aho at 35.
I’ll play this game because I do think of all the trade options revolving around Skinner, Faulk and Hanifin the most attractive option is to trade into this years high first round – and of course Hanifin is the only guy that carries enough value to make that happen.
A guy I am very interested in that Detroit has to offer is the rights to negotiate with Mike Green. I’m not on record as being a fan of trading Faulk but if they could aqcuire Green and sign him – that would be the ideal ‘replacement/improvement’ on Faulk to allow the team to use Faulk as a trade chip for offense or goaltending.
The need for a goal tending solution is priority one. This team hasn’t had average goal tending in a decade. This team hasn’t had a top ten goalie. They need to get creative to obtain a high goalie prospect. Grubauer is not the answer. Prospects like T. Demko from Vancouver is the type of goalie that could be obtained. If it means Noah is traded so be it.
The problem with the proposed Oilers deal is that they seem to be having the same goaltending woes as the Canes.
Also I am not sure Larsen would make up for the loss of both Hannifin and Faulk in terms of manning the powerplay and creating offense.
There is no goalie prospect to target. If the deal netted a promising goalie prospect then I would be on board with it, though I’d ask for Drizeitel )or however you spell his name= over RNH.
But perhaps Skinner and either Hannifin or Faulk to the Oilers for Larsen and one of their 2 centers plus Lucic could be interesting, or even Skinner in return for RNH and taking on the Lucic contract.
It looks like the best goalie prospects are found in the Flyers, Leafs or Canucks organizations.
Well, sounds like you can scratch a Hanifin trade.
https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1560293
Waddell has been pretty truthful in his comments to date. Also sounds like a Skinner deal is likely.
If this is so, so much for what I have heard. And I don’t mind being wrong – I do like Noah. I just want to believe that his attitude is right.
But if Zadina and/or Tkachuk are available at 6 or 7, who knows… 😀
It is not necessarily the case that we should write off the idea that Waddell wants to trade Hanifin just because he wants to sign him up for a long term deal.
A long term deal would enhance Hanifin’s trade value. Right now he has only short term “rental” value.
powerless, I like and respect you, however, i think you rather underestimate Hanifin’s value. Regardless of the mistakes and deficiencies in his play, he’s still a 21 year old All-Star defenseman that scored double digit goals last year, and was 45th overall in scoring among d-men (or Top 2 caliber production if you equate that over 31 teams top pairs). It’s not like he’s very likely to get worse in the coming years, so I’d say his value is pretty freaking high regardless of contract status. And the new contract just ups the ridiculousness of the offer it would take to get him.
Thank you, fogger. I like and respect you too. I am having fun with these trade proposals. But, let me state for the record. My preference has always been to not trade away anyone. I think that Ronnie put together a great team. He just gave us a terrible coach.
While I must concede that there might be a couple of players who might have been soured by the experience and became locker room cancers (who must go), I hope that it isn’t Hanifin.
As I have said before. I believe that our d-men need to be paired as such; one defensive d-man with one offensive d-man, and one experienced guy with an experienced guy. We need at least one blood drinker and we have Trevor Carrick.
I am satisfied that we can get into the playoffs just the way we are(including Necas and Svech, of course).
One experienced guy with one inexperienced guy.