Thursday’s Coffee Shop finds the Hurricanes in the midst of a solid run of hockey. There have been a few frustrating overtime losses in which it felt like the Hurricanes gave away a point, but when the a team hits a streak where the bad outings still earn a point in the standings, things are generally going well.
This week’s Thursday Coffee Shop has polls and discussion on the state of the 2016-17 season and follow ups to Daily Cup of Joe articles on Bill Peters and Elias Lindholm earlier this week.
Carolina Hurricanes polls
Please remember to click ‘vote’ after each individual poll vote.
What is the state of the Carolina Hurricanes 2016-17 season?
- Shhhhhh...Don't say a word. (55%, 38 Votes)
- It's over. (29%, 20 Votes)
- It's not over. (16%, 11 Votes)
Total Voters: 69
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Elias Lindholm was featured in a Daily Cup of Joe article that discussed this in more detail, but I wanted to put a simple poll out too.
What do you make of Elias Lindholm's strong play of late?
- I like what he has shown recently, but he needs to do it out of the gate and for a full season before I am convinced. (51%, 35 Votes)
- He has officially turned the corner and is now on his way to becoming a leader and/or star for the Hurricanes. (34%, 23 Votes)
- He has turned the corner but his ceiling is still modest as a good top 9 forward but not necessarily a team leader statistically. (12%, 8 Votes)
- Though this run of strong play has been longer, he is still due to regress again in 2017-18. (1%, 1 Votes)
- Other (add in comments) (1%, 1 Votes)
Total Voters: 68
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I also wrote about Coach Bill Peters this week suggesting that his honeymoon ended in the turmoil around the trade deadline and the Eddie Lack incident.
Given that he inherited a roster in the midst of a gradual rebuilding project, when is it fair to expect results from Coach Bill Peters?
- Not until the conclusion of the 2017-18. Next year is Peters first real trial, and he should automatically be given the entire season. (43%, 29 Votes)
- During the 2017-18 season. Francis should begin to evaluate whether Peters is getting the job done during interim points next season. (35%, 24 Votes)
- Not until at least 2018-19. The team needs to commit to Peters and should only consider deviating from this if something extreme happens. (15%, 10 Votes)
- Now. He should have been able to do better with the 2016-17 team, and if he does not pull out a late miracle, he should start 2017-18 with a short leash. (6%, 4 Votes)
- Other (add in comments) (1%, 1 Votes)
Total Voters: 68
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Carolina Hurricanes discussion questions
1) How will the Carolina Hurricanes 2016-17 season end?
2) Recognizing that things can change significantly in the last 11 games, who would you rank as first, second and third place for the team’s 2016-17 most valuable player(s)?
3) Understanding that most of us are going on secondhand information/reports from others, with the ‘Midterms’ prospect reports nearly complete (only Nicolas Roy yet to go), which of the 17 Hurricanes prospects below the AHL level jumps out as most exciting and/or seems to have risen up the most during the 2016-17 season?
Go Canes!
1. Canes will not make the playoffs but will finish ahead of New York Islanders but behind Tampa Bay.
2. Most Valuable: Slavin
2nd Most Valuable: Skinner
3rd Most Valuable: Staal (Should be Captain though)
3. Roy, Gauthier, Foegle, Smallman (several others are exciting prospects)
1. Canes will win enough to be too low draft to get the forward we really need but also miss the playoffs (they do it every year)
2. MVP ranked: Slavin, Skinner, Staal. Hard to argue with RedRyder, but how about the years of Aho, Lindholm and Pesce, future is feeling good.
3. I am very pleased with the progress of our prospects. Cotton, Smallman, and Bean have impressed.
1. Canes will miss the playoffs but be close to the cut line. This is what I predicted at the beginning of the season and sticking with it.
2. MVP1 Skinner, MVP2 Slavin, MVP3 Aho (really smart with the puck)
3. Roy, Gauthier, Bean, Foegle, Smallman
1. Will miss the playoffs by 4-6 Points.
2.
Most Valuable: Slavin
2nd Most Valuable: Staal
3rd Most Valuable: Pesce (+/- says a lot about his quiet game.)
WildCard: Skinner, What can you say. He can take over a game. Just disappears to often. When he is going… he is the MVP for sure. Just consistency and focus are lacking to often.
3. Roy and Gauthier seem to be the most legit. I’m basing that on the world juniors and a handful of games I watched on tv.
1. 7-2-2 rest of season
2. Any S (even Stempniak due to his fitting in on so many lines)–with a slight edge to Staal because of PK
3. Thrilled by so many prospects. You have done great work on this sight keeping us updated on the Canes’ future. Based on what I have read here and a little from stats and CHL sites, I would say Foegele because he might be the energy player needed on the 4th line who will improve production. Smallman seems to be solid with potential for call-up next year. Booth, and to a lesser degree Helvig, because Ned doesn’t seem to be progressing. Too bad McCollum is under contract to Calgary. (If anyone understands the “loan” and can suggest if there is an option to trade for him, that would appreciated.) His history has shown steady improvement to the point where his is in top tier in AHL. Might be a late-bloomer like Darling and be able to perform as solid backup in NHL. Also, Elynuik because of stats on PK–that has been one strong point for Canes for two seasons now. Would hate for it to go away as team becomes solid contender. Of course, still think Gauthier, Roy, and Kuokkenen will be top 9 forwards in 3 years.
1) While I selfishly would love to see the team go on a losing streak and improve its draft stock, the team is just too good for that. Soooooo we’ll look respectable but not playoff-worthy….again. Sigh, Nolan Patrick did look cool.
2. MVP Slavin, 2MVP Aho, 3MVP Staal/Skinner
Slavin was the unheralded rock of our season, Aho spent half the season as our top offensive player, and Staal/Skinner both played dominantly on the defensive/offensive end…in stretches.
3. I would imagine Nicolas Roy has the highest ceiling of any of our prospects, but its a tie between teammates Smallman and Booth for the most improvement this year. I’m going to go with Callum Booth because he’s a goalie. Leading the Q, the most offensive junior league out there, in both Wins and Sv %, he earned his entry-level contract and it will be fascinating to see how he plays on the professional level next year. I’ll be watching him a lot more closely at the very least.
I should have included Callum Booth in my list. I agree fogger794, I felt he was the best goalie prospect back at the beginning of the season, and still do.